tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660670497459217612.post6078754928166717720..comments2023-05-17T07:44:25.736-05:00Comments on Climbing those hills...: Y Bike >,TriMOEngrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06263218066341525194noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660670497459217612.post-78882533909320718322012-02-18T19:33:58.640-06:002012-02-18T19:33:58.640-06:00I agree with Colleen! Just keep logging the TITS! ...I agree with Colleen! Just keep logging the TITS! :) Way to push it!Pattyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11069371008875502190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660670497459217612.post-37799587384933648632012-02-18T17:38:57.283-06:002012-02-18T17:38:57.283-06:00In my opinion... don't worry about how accurat...In my opinion... don't worry about how accurate everything was (HR, how far you went, how fast you went, etc). Just count it as time in the saddle (T.I.T.S as I call it) which is great. :) Trying to compare is just too hard.<br /><br />And I wouldn't go by that HR monitor at the gym. They can be way off. Just stick to perceived effort!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09771758178064698651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660670497459217612.post-61135938522378896292012-02-18T02:52:57.157-06:002012-02-18T02:52:57.157-06:00Wow, good effort. If your RPE is high then you ar...Wow, good effort. If your RPE is high then you are definitely putting in the intensity.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04846136358775915126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660670497459217612.post-5267038588406138532012-02-17T08:27:14.274-06:002012-02-17T08:27:14.274-06:00I've been working with a coach and most of my ...I've been working with a coach and most of my bike/trainer rides have been much easier than what you described. In fact, she advised me not to do spin class because the effort would be too hard. We are working on building an aerobic base so most of the rides feel actually pretty easy, with some harder stuff built in, but it's for short bursts. I've ridden my road bike outside once, for about 10 miles, and it's easier than riding inside because there are downhills so you rest a little. As Keith said above, learning about heart rate zones can be really helpful and it actually allows you to not work quite as hard and still gain benefits. I learned this especially with running. To keep my heart rate low, I have to run really slow, but then I'm not so exhausted at the end of what is supposed to be an easy run. This is good because then you are not destroyed and unable to do whatever workout you have planned for the next day (and you don't burn out).Bethhttp://www.irunforthepizza.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660670497459217612.post-73971619540164424712012-02-17T08:14:43.254-06:002012-02-17T08:14:43.254-06:00Bike effort, when you're not actually riding a...Bike effort, when you're not actually riding a bike outside, is hard to judge. There's a couple factors. Your muscles will be used to working a certain way on your bike based on how it's been fit to you. (Ah, it HAS been fit to you, right?) Riding on other bikes is good, but there will be subtle differences in how much each joint bends and each muscle stretches, which changes your perspective about how much you're working. <br /><br />Then there is the measurements the spin bike supplies, time, height, distance, speed, heart rate, maybe watts. Off all of these, I would only believe time, heart rate, and take watts with a grain of salt. I don't know how they compute the other numbers, and suspect they bear no real relationship to what you would experience on a bike on the road. Time will be accurate, as will heart rate, providing you don't let go of the metal sensor. If they provide watts that might be accurate, but x watts on a spin bike might feel different than x watts on your own bike because of calibration issues or the factors mentioned in the first para.<br /><br />My first few years I got on my bike and did the workout my coach gave me. I came perilously close to puking a few times trying to keep up, then buried my ego and did what I could. It sure didn't seem very repeatable, and I was always disappointed on my first outdoor rides. I would keep track of heart rate (incredibly variable), and how it felt in the various gears at various rpm, but that was pretty vague.<br /><br />Part of the problem is that most spin sessions have you doing all kinds of crazy stuff, broken up into sets a few minutes long with recovery time, all to what is typically terrible music. Maybe this really is the scientifically proven way to be a better bike rider, but I think what it trains you to do is all kinds of crazy stuff with a break every few minutes relying on music to keep you going. Personally, I think it's to keep people from being bored. And what do you do in a triathlon? You get on your bike and try to ride at a steady pace that is just a hair below where your body starts building up lactate that it can't process. For what could be several hours. With no music. Granted, there are skills the spin session is trying to build, and some bike specific stuff like hill climbing.<br /><br />All that said, anything is better than nothing. But my take on it is that if you can't repeat the workout from week to week or month to month and compare how you feel, you won't know if you're improving or not. <br /><br />Since I got the power meter on my trainer, most of my workouts have been a sustained effort at a particular power level. I want to train myself to be able to ride at a steady effort for hours. I was surprised at how easy the "endurace pace" was at first, and how it felt after 1.5 hours. <br /><br />There are ways of training based on heart rate, and you might want to look into those. Take it with a grain of salt though, because heart rate can be affected by a number of factors that have little to do with your workout.<br /><br />Food for though.Keithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09364395150014197905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660670497459217612.post-32530101634447018792012-02-17T06:41:13.054-06:002012-02-17T06:41:13.054-06:00Thats climbing a mountain in 50 mins, its impressi...Thats climbing a mountain in 50 mins, its impressiveBig Daddy Dieselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07868041775049514011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660670497459217612.post-42315061085693302142012-02-17T02:50:09.009-06:002012-02-17T02:50:09.009-06:00Forging onward and inching forward...you're ge...Forging onward and inching forward...you're getting the work done :) I have no clue about the bike...it baffles me, too. At least if you fall off the stationary bike, you probably won't get road rash.XLMIChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12268964638359962511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660670497459217612.post-50482532332306752112012-02-16T23:39:43.646-06:002012-02-16T23:39:43.646-06:00Nice. According to the bike's computer you ba...Nice. According to the bike's computer you basically climbed Alpe d'Huez and then some.<br /><br />A HR of 160 BPM against what you seem to suggest your rate of perceived exertion was seems a little off.<br /><br />But whatever, time in the saddle is what you need and you got it so all is good.Patrick Mahoneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17181637044657605057noreply@blogger.com